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 Post subject: Icon size of start menu
PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:22 am 
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Hello,

I use Windows 7 32bit with classic theme and Classic Shell with classic style.

I changed the icon size. Unfortunately, Classic Shell uses the icon size for sub-menu's but not for the main menu (see attached screenshots).

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:36 am 
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There are 2 sizes in the settings - for the large and for the small icons.
In addition most skins have settings to use small icons in the main menu.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:56 am 
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I checked it once again and it's a little bit different:

The icon size does have an effect. But I changed the DPI to 115% and it seems that the DPI setting is recognized in sub-menu's but not in the main menu. Therefore the icon size is always different between the main menu and the sub-menu's.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:01 am 
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The default icon sizes depend on the DPI. If you override the size (it becomes bold in the settings list) it will not depend on the DPI anymore.
Make sure you override both the small and the large size to the value you want.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:13 am 
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Sorry, but it doesn't work. Even if I change both sizes for small and large icons the icons do have a different size in the main menu and the sub-menu's.

E.g. if I set the icons size to 18 px, then the main menu shows icons with a size of 14 px, whereas the sub-menu's show icons with a size of 18 px.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 9:31 am 
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Save your settings to XML and attach it here.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:13 am 
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Please find attached the XML file.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:24 am 
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Did you check "Small icons" on the Skin tab?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:34 am 
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Yes.


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I tried the XML and it worked fine for me in 115% DPI. The IE icons in the main menu and in the submenu were the exact same size.
You have to restart the menu for the new icon sizes to take effect. Unlike most other settings, it is not applied immediately.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:44 am 
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Yes, I know that a restart is required.

The size setting affects the icon size in the start menu as well as in the sub-menu's. But the size of the icons in the start menu is always smaller than the size of the icons in the sub-menu's (as you can see in the screenshots).

Did you use the classic windows XP design of Windows 7 for you test?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 10:52 am 
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Another screenshot - icon size should be 32 px, but the icon size of the main menu is 24 px. The icon size of the sub-menu's is correct (32 px).


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The icons in the main menu in your screenshot are not 24x24. The Run icon is at least 26 pixels wide. Place the same program in both menus and compare the two icons.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 11:23 am 
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I found the problem ...

E.g. the standard icon for the programs entry in the main menu is "shell32.dll,326". If you use a 32x32 icon, you get an icon with 23x23 - the missing 9 pixel are just transparent pixel (same with the other sizes like 16x16). The icon which I use for the folders in the sub-menu's is a real 32x32 pixel icon (or 16x16).

Therefore it's not a bug of Classic Shell, but a 'bug' of Microsoft's icons.


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