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Author:  gypsymauro [ Wed May 11, 2016 12:15 am ]
Post subject:  two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
hello,
I've installed classic shell on windows 2012 R2, I configured classic shell via HKLM registry keys, and it works like a charm but:

1) I can't disable context menu even if I added the key:
EnableContextMenu in
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu and set it to 0

2) I will use that server for RDP session, when the user connects it starts with metro menu then after some secs (say 10 secs) Classic Start Menu appears,
I disabled the delay icons too, but I get the same behaviour,

any hint on how to solve this two nasty problems before to push my server in production? :)

thank you very much
Author:  Gaurav [ Wed May 11, 2016 2:20 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
#1. You must exit the Classic Start Menu by right clicking the Start button and launch it again from C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe. Or log out of your Windows account and log in again. The context menu *inside the Start Menu* should be disabled after that.

#2. Right click the Taskbar and click Properties. From Navigation tab, check "When I sign in or close all apps on a screen, go to the Desktop instead of Start". This is a per-user Windows setting though. There is no way in Windows Server 2012 R2 or Windows 8.1 to boot to the Desktop by default for all users.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Wed May 11, 2016 5:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
Thank you for the reply

> #1. You must exit the Classic Start Menu by right clicking the Start button and launch it again from C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe. Or log out of your Windows account and log in again. The context menu *inside the Start Menu* should be disabled after that.

I done that, but it still has the context menu :/ another thing is that I'added the _Default postfix and in the administrator user I set the HKCU flag to 1
( I want that administrator can change the settings), but it doesn't works I still can open context menu but I can't open the settings there is not the entry in the menu..


> #2. Right click the Taskbar and click Properties. From Navigation tab, check "When I sign in or close all apps on a screen, go to the Desktop instead of Start". This is a per-use setting though. There is no way in Windows Server 2012 R2 or Windows 8.1 to boot to the Desktop by default for all users.


doh! weird, while I want to disable the settings entry for all users :)
maybe is possible to generate a .reg file with this option?
Author:  Ivo [ Wed May 11, 2016 7:42 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
Download the Classic Shell Utility from here: http://www.classicshell.net/downloads/
Run it on the machine that has the problem and save a system log file. Send me the file.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Wed May 11, 2016 8:17 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
here is the log attached

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Author:  Ivo [ Wed May 11, 2016 9:31 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
Classic Shell does not appear to be installed correctly. It is missing the component that lets it start immediately instead of after 10-second delay.
Also I don't see EnableContextMenu anywhere in the registry.

I would recommend you uninstall, reboot, then install again.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Wed May 11, 2016 11:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
great, I reinstalled and it starts very soon, perfect,
about the EnableContextMenu I've in the HKLM: EnableContextMenu_Default,
for what I understood, if I set this Default , each users will have the menu disabled but can enable modifying the HKCU key,
in this way I want to enable the context menu for the administrator user, but it doesn't seems to work,
what I mean that with an user I still have the context menu enabled,
Have I made a mistake? Attached the log.

Thank you very much for ur help & work

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Author:  Ivo [ Wed May 11, 2016 11:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
again, send me the log file.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Thu May 12, 2016 12:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
I attached the file in the previous post , sorry :),
in the attached file I edited the HKLM key deleting the _Default part and deleting the HKCU Ivosoft keys to be sure
Author:  Gaurav [ Thu May 12, 2016 3:51 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
This is how your Registry should be configured (merge this REG). Note that the Settings in HKLM are in HKLM\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu whereas the Settings in HKCU are in HKCU\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings subbranch. The same should work for any other Reg value including EnableSettings.

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu]
"EnableContextMenu_Default"=dword:00000000

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings]
"EnableContextMenu"=dword:00000001
Author:  gypsymauro [ Thu May 12, 2016 7:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
I've done exactly this, but:

with a generic user in the log I see:

EnableExit_Default: 0x00000000 (0)
EnableContextMenu_Default: 0x00000000 (0)

and the context menu is still enabled,
any hint?
Author:  Ivo [ Thu May 12, 2016 8:26 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
Did you remember to restart after writing to the registry?
Author:  Gaurav [ Thu May 12, 2016 9:19 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
In the two logs you attached, I don't see a section containing:

Common settings:
EnableContextMenu_Default: 0x00000000 (0)

Can you configure the settings and then run the utility to save the log? So from the log it will be clear if it's configured correctly? If it's missing from the log, it means the setting's not there.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Mon May 16, 2016 2:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
sorry for tha late (busy days)
attached is the log file,
here the snapshot:

EnableExit_Default: 0x00000000 (0)
EnableContextMenu_Default: 0x00000000 (0)
EnableSettings_Default: 0x00000000 (0)


now as user I don't have the exit menu (yahooooo) but I'm still able to open the context menu
(at least the Settings isn't enabled anymore)
this is a good status, but if I can remove the context menu it will be better :D

any hint?
Thank you very much for your patient :)

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Author:  Gaurav [ Mon May 16, 2016 4:52 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
I think you are referring to the context menu of the Start **button** on the Taskbar and we are talking about the context menu that appears when you right click on an item inside the Start **Menu**.

To disable right click options that appear when you right click the Start button, go to Classic Start Menu settings, enable All Settings. Go the Context Menu tab and uncheck "Enable Exit" and "Enable Windows Explorer" on the same tab. The Settings item can be disabled from the Windows Registry (Regedit.exe) by adding a DWORD value "EnableSettings" and setting it to 0 at HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu. To hide the "Help" item, rename or delete the Help file at C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicShell.chm.

Log off your Windows user account and log in again for all the changes to take effect.
Author:  gypsymauro [ Tue May 17, 2016 3:10 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
doh! so te context menu is for the taskbar?
strange 'cause I've still the ability to open the context menu on the task bar.
BTW for what I understood isn't possible to disable completly the "start menu" context menu,
just you can hide its options one by one, is it right?

thank you
ciao
Mauro
Author:  Gaurav [ Tue May 17, 2016 5:28 am ]
Post subject:  Re: two questions about classic menu on 2012 R2 (RDP)
- EnableContextMenu Registry value (Enable right click menu GUI option) is for the context menu inside the Start menu
- That doesn't disable the Start *button* context menu. You are right, for that you have to disable individual options one by one - Enable Exit, Enable Windows Explorer, EnableSettings reg value and rename or delete the help file.
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