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Hello, im using classic shell start menu for some time now, everything works fine with one exception - The aplication list in start menu.

When i select so that it shows recent apps, its full of them but the order is kinda... strange by recent i understant that the last one that was ran would be 1st from top, but it doesnt seem to work like that (dont get the order...).

When i select so that is shows frequent apps, only two are displayed - no idea why.

Also some apps are missing there, like a Neverwinter (game that i play very frequently and should be no1 on the lists, but isnt even there).

Below screenshot explains how it looks, hope that u can help me .



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The recent list is only for items started from the start menu. The start menu doesn't know about any programs you start from elsewhere. So the last program you started from the menu should be listed at the top.

The frequent list uses the system's frequency of use data, but only for programs that are in the start menu. Your is in C:\Users\Public, so it doesn't show. If you add a shortcut to the game in the start menu, and then use it at least once, then it will show in the frequent list. Or if you really use it that often, simply pin it like you did with Firefox.

Oh, thanx. This kinda sux, if i remember well in win7 it worked for all apps that were opened from anywhere and didnt have to physicaly be in the menu start.

I'm pretty sure the frequent list works very much like in Windows 7.

Im sure it recorded apps from desktop, i had a lot of apps that didnt have instalation process and a start menu folder shortcut. I ran them from the taskbar or desktop and they were present in the list...



I have Teamspeak shortcut both in menu start instalation folder and desktop - it records when i run it from menu start but not from the desktop.

Hi veren. From my observations, here is it how it worked.

In Windows XP/Vista,
1. A shortcut to the app has to be present in the Start Menu
2. The app can be started from other locations such as the Desktop or Run dialog. As long as its shortcut is in the menu, it will show up in the MFU list.

In Windows 7/8, MS changed it so:
1. A shortcut to the app has to be present in the Start Menu
2. The app has to be started at least once from the Start Menu. If it isn't launched from Start Menu, then it won't show up in the MFU list.
3. Thereafter the app can be started from other locations such as the Desktop to show up in the MFU list.

Also, app shortcuts pinned to the Taskbar never show up in the MFU list. That is certain.

I will check the MFU behavior for Desktop and other places again to be 100% sure but try starting it once from the Start Menu, and see if it starts showing up.

Edit: Yes that's how it works. Confirmed. The Windows 7 original menu behaves the same way for me.

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Links to some general topics:

● Compare Start Menus

● Read the Search box usage guide.

I am a Windows enthusiast and helped a little with Classic Shell's testing and usability/UX feedback.

Then this doesnt work for me. When i set it to show recent apps, run Teamspeak from menustart then on other app and then again Teamspeak from desktop - does not go to top.

Unfortunatelly i dont have Win7 atm, gonna check some details when i will be able to .

What I said above is only for the Frequent list. None of this applies to the Recent list. The Recent list only tracks items launched through the Start Menu, not from outside it. Also, no Windows version has had a Recent programs list. Windows Start menus only had a Frequent list whose behavior is similar in CSM.

Btw, you can go the Main menu tab in Classic Start Menu's settings and look for the setting: "Max recent programs (use negative number to reverse the order)". Make sure it is set to show more than 2 programs and that the number isn't negative.

It is also possible that the data for Frequent apps got corrupted. You can clear it from Taskbar properties (right click the Taskbar) -> Jump Lists tab -> Uncheck "Store and display recently opened programs", click Apply, then check it and click Apply again. This will reset the MFU data that Windows maintains.

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Links to some general topics:

● Compare Start Menus

● Read the Search box usage guide.

I am a Windows enthusiast and helped a little with Classic Shell's testing and usability/UX feedback.