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When windows is first started or if it is restarted start menu loads instantly, but in case of logoff and on next logon it takes exactly 1 minute for start menu to appear although process is running. Could this be conflict with some tweaks i used on windows 10?

You can capture a slowdown dump according to the instructions here: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6 to determine the cause of Start Menu slowdowns.

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I am a Windows enthusiast and helped a little with Classic Shell's testing and usability/UX feedback.

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The start menu will try for 1 minute to locate a window named "Progman", which will point it to the correct Explorer process. I don't know why it will fail to do that during the retries, but then immediately succeed after that.

You will need to enable the startup logging. In Regedit, go to HKCU\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings and create a new DWORD LogStartup and set it to 1.
Repeat the test, then look at the directory %LOCALAPPDATA%\ClassicShell for a file named StartupLog.txt.

Here is startup log

OK. Looks like it is failing to find a window named "ApplicationManager_DesktopShellWindow", which is part of the Metro UI.
Most likely one of your system modifications is causing this.

A potential workaround is to disable the automatic starting of the menu (uncheck the "start automatically for this user" in the General Behavior tab) and then launch ClassicStartMenu.exe yourself. You can do it via the Startup folder, but that will have a delay of 10 seconds. You can also try doing it as a custom task in the Scheduler.

So delay in starting is because Metro UI is disabled? But why delay happens only on logoff, but not on restart? Cant start menu search for Program Manager class Progman window like on windows 7 if Metro UI is disabled?

Could delay be because of disabling sihost.exe process since i changed

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I don't know why it only happens on logoff.
Disabling Metro is not supported, as well as other system modifications. There are many such hacks, with countless combinations and side effects.

By "Disabling Metro" I meant changing registry key to "EnableSIHostIntegration"=dword:00000000, not on using Metro Killer or similar software.

This is startup log from restart:

I am not familiar with the possible ways of disabling the Metro UI. Still not supported
The start menu has some metro functionality that would break. If that works for you, fine, however you are into unsupported territory.
I am suggesting an alternative way of launching the start menu that may work better for you. That's the best I can do. Even in the case it works, I can't promise it will continue to work in future versions.

Startup folder and task scheduler doesnt work, same delay happens. If by "The start menu has some metro functionality that would break" You mean Classic Shell Start Menu, cant option to disable its metro functionality be added so it starts faster?

Did you disable the normal startup from the settings?
As a first pass, just disable the setting and ensure that no start menu shows up even after one minute. Then try the startup or scheduler.

forgot to disable normal startup, it looks that it works now. Thanks.

EDIT: Also forgot to disable Metro UI again (temporarily enabled key I mentioned before), still need 1 minute to start.