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gerardsweeney
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 6:21 am 
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Hello, all..

I've started looking at Classic Start Menu to make Win8.1 less of a torture for our users.

I'd created a GPO which has the COMPUTER settings to include an option to hide the "Settings" menu on right click.

And it doesn't appear to be working? Or, rather, I can't get "Settings" to go away :)


I've verified that the GPO is in place - the HKLM\Software\Policies\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu exists
The value EnableSettings is set to Reg_Dword 0

Other settings within the GPO are applied.


I've checked:
HKCU\Software\Policies\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu - it doesn't exist (as I've not used the "User" section of the GPO - just the Computer)
HKCU\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings - it exists, but there's no "EnableSettings"
HKLM\Software\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu\Settings - it doesn't exist

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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\IvoSoft\ClassicStartMenu]
"AllProgramsMetro"=dword:00000000
"AutoStart_State"=dword:00000000
"AutoStart"=dword:00000001
"CheckWinUpdates"=dword:00000000
"Computer_State"=dword:00000000
"Computer"="Hide"
"ConfirmLogOff_State"=dword:00000000
"ConfirmLogOff"=dword:00000001
"DisableHotCorner_State"=dword:00000000
"DisableHotCorner"="DisableAll"
"Documents_State"=dword:00000000
"Documents"="Menu"
"EnableExplorer_State"=dword:00000000
"EnableExplorer"=dword:00000001
"EnableStartButton_State"=dword:00000000
"EnableStartButton"=dword:00000000
"GlassBlending_State"=dword:00000001
"GlassBlending"=dword:00000001
"GlassColor_State"=dword:00000001
"GlassColor"=dword:00000001
"HideUserPic_State"=dword:00000000
"HideUserPic"=dword:00000000
"StartButtonType_State"=dword:00000000
"StartButtonType"="AeroButton"
"EnableSettings"=dword:00000000
"MenuStyle_State"=dword:00000000
"MenuStyle"="Win7"
"ControlPanel_State"=dword:00000000
"ControlPanel"="Show"
"EnableExit"=dword:00000000
"ShutdownW7_State"=dword:00000000
"ShutdownW7"="logoff,lock,restart"
"ShutdownCommand_State"=dword:00000000
"ShutdownCommand"="CommandLogOff"
 


Am I missing something really obvious?
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Gaurav
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:47 am 
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You must exit the Start Menu by right clicking the Start button -> Exit and start it again from C:\Program Files\Classic Shell\ClassicStartMenu.exe for the policy settings to take effect.

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Links to some general topics:

● Compare Start Menus

● Read the Search box usage guide.

I am a Windows enthusiast and helped a little with Classic Shell's testing and usability/UX feedback.
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Ivo
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 7:50 am 
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You are missing the value "EnableSettings_State"=0. It should be created automatically if you go through gpedit.
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gerardsweeney
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:13 am 
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Ivo wrote:
You are missing the value "EnableSettings_State"=0. It should be created automatically if you go through gpedit.


It isn't being created.
The registry key I included is a full export of the PC which is running with the GPO.
You can see that EnableSettings is at 0, but there's no EnableSettings_State.

In reply to the other email, I meant to say that I've stopped and started the Start Menu. I've also rebooted and logged in as multiple different users.

Ah...

I think I have it sussed.

I had the GPO value at "Disabled" - which I assumed meant that the feature would be - well - disabled :)
I set it to "Enabled", "Lock" and left the checkbox unchecked, and it works - the EnableSettings_State value is applied.

False alarm :)

Gerard
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Ivo
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:25 am 
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"Disabled" for policies means "disable the policy", which is basically the same as "don't do anything".
It doesn't mean "disable the feature that the policy controls".
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gerardsweeney
PostPosted: Thu Apr 03, 2014 8:33 am 
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Got it...
I've gone in and changed my "Disabled" features to "Enabled" and Locked unchecked :)

Thanks for the help.
Gerard
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