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Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Oct 20, 2017 4:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: Skinnable Win10-esque menu w/ Tiles (Works with


Almost beat Microsoft to the Punch with this, lol

...almost ;-;

Author:  P3rf3ctXZer0 [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 5:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

The only thing its lacking is categories and full screen mode ;')

On another note to prevent CC order call it "StartEnvi"

Author:  Splitwirez [ Wed Oct 25, 2017 7:42 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
The only thing its lacking is categories and full screen mode ;')

Categories are present, albeit lacking headers and drag-rearrangement capabilities, and fullscreen mode is in the works. Expect a Windows 8.1-style Start Screen in the future, too.
EDIT: Headers exist now.


P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
On another note to prevent CC order call it "StartEnvi"

I probably would've changed the name by now if I weren't so painfully attached to the name Start9.
Also...why "StartEnvi"...?

Author:  P3rf3ctXZer0 [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 1:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

NICE Thanks for adding feature request! Also I figured something that didn't sound generic. Anyone say a word with a number in front but your project deserves to stand out from all the generic start menu clones because your startmenu will actually do more than even some of the paid competitors like StartIsBack and Start10 which almost offer the most generic features - I believe you could honestly have the best startmenu projects I have seen yet.

Author:  Jcee [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 4:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

" I believe you could honestly have the best startmenu projects I have seen yet."
I just want to clarify that Splitwirez Is not the author of classic shell :P (Ivo Beltchev/Ivo Is the developer behind classic shell), just an active member using classic shell as inspiration for a really cool start menu :)
(unless you just mean you like his skins too :P)

Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
NICE Thanks for adding feature request!

Assuming you mean the headers...those were already on my to-do list, I just figured this would be a good time to get them in. That having been said, I am open to suggestions, within reason.


P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
Also I figured something that didn't sound generic.

...huh. Well if anyone can come up with a name that rolls off the tongue as smoothly as Start9, I'm all ears. Provided I can convince myself to actually do anything, that is.
(I just have a really bad habit of getting really attached to things, k? ;-; )


P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
Anyone say a word with a number in front but your project deserves to stand out from all the generic start menu clones

>Power8
>StartMenu8
>Start10
They're all named after the corresponding version of Windows...but there is no Windows 9 :>


P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
because your startmenu will actually do more than even some of the paid competitors like StartIsBack and Start10 which almost offer the most generic features

O.o


P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
I believe you could honestly have the best startmenu projects I have seen yet.

O.o


Jcee wrote:
P3rf3ctXZer0 wrote:
I believe you could honestly have the best startmenu projects I have seen yet.

I just want to clarify that Splitwirez Is not the author of classic shell :P (Ivo Beltchev/Ivo Is the developer behind classic shell) just an active member using classic shell as inspiration for a really cool start menu :)

Yeah, of course Classic Shell is Ivo's...sorry if that got mixed up, I thought that compliment was directed towards Start9 .-.
Wait...which menu application was it directed at? .-.


Jcee wrote:
(unless you just mean you like his skins too :P)

xd

Author:  Jcee [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 3:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

I just saw ' start menu projects' (plural) and wanted to clear anything up :P

Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Jcee wrote:
I just saw ' start menu projects' (plural) and wanted to clear anything up :P

...yeah I completely missed that ._.

Author:  P3rf3ctXZer0 [ Sun Oct 29, 2017 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Jcee wrote:
I just saw ' start menu projects' (plural) and wanted to clear anything up :P


Error I was complimenting classic shell and start9 I figure they are both doing things slightly differently.

Author:  redblade8 [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 3:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Wait, what? Live tiles? I thought there was no api for that. I think that was one of the reasons that tiles were not added to classic shell. Although there are other ways to implement tiles.

Back on topic. Live tiles, that's awesome. Good work Splitwirez. =)

Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Nov 03, 2017 5:24 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

redblade8 wrote:
Wait, what? Live tiles?

Yes, Live Tiles.


redblade8 wrote:
I thought there was no api for that.

Certainly none Documented. I don't know the whereabouts of any related undocumented APIs, either.


redblade8 wrote:
I think that was one of the reasons that tiles were not added to classic shell.

Idk, possibly. (although Ivo has used other Undocumented APIs for Classic Shell, e.g. SetWindowCompositionAttribute...then again, that one's location)


redblade8 wrote:
Although there are other ways to implement tiles.

True, as is the case with Start9...all I did was look at Microsoft's documentation for creating tiles for WinRT Apps and cross-reference that with the files I ripped from some of the stock Windows 8 Apps. Surprisingly, it's mostly just XML.
That having been said, getting this working reliably could be tricky, as the XML files vary somewhat between Apps. I'm still optimistic about it, though.


redblade8 wrote:
Back on topic. Live tiles, that's awesome. Good work Splitwirez. =)

Thanks ^-^

Also...

CALL RIGHT NOW AND YOU'LL RECEIVE THIS TILE SIDEBAR ABSOLUTELY FREE!!!1!!1!!111!!!! :lol:
(Don't actually call me...you're all getting the Sidebar regardless and also HOW DID YOU GET MY PHONE NUMBER!??!)

Author:  Splitwirez [ Sun Nov 05, 2017 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T


Obligatory Classic Theme thingy, I guess :P

Author:  Splitwirez [ Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:25 pm ]
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Author:  redblade8 [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 5:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Nice. That's cool that you found a way to make live-tiles. I didn't know that Ivo included undocumented features into classicshell.

XML files might make it easier on you.

You're always welcome ^.^

Tile sidebar? I'm unsure what this is. xD

Author:  Splitwirez [ Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

redblade8 wrote:
Tile sidebar? I'm unsure what this is. xD

Apparently I forgot to post the actual screenshot...here it is:

It's the thing on the right :lol:

Author:  redblade8 [ Fri Nov 17, 2017 7:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Oh. I see now. Good work. =)

Author:  0x6A7232 [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 3:41 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Is there a beta download for this, or is it to be released when finished? A quick Googling of "Start9" revealed some sort of retro gaming service, lol

Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

0x6A7232 wrote:
Is there a beta download for this, or is it to be released when finished? A quick Googling of "Start9" revealed some sort of retro gaming service, lol

No downloads yet, it'll be out...when it's ready.

And yeah, that Google search is going to be a bit of an uphill climb to get onto, lol

Author:  juniper7 [ Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Add "Start9" to every picture name that's uploaded.
Then the search bots will index them, and bump them up higher with each view? :)

Author:  Blokk888 [ Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

where to download Start9 ?

Author:  Jcee [ Sat Dec 09, 2017 11:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A skinnable Win10ish Start Menu, complete with T

Its currently not out, and in a beta/invite-only stage. Sorry.

Author:  Splitwirez [ Sat Dec 09, 2017 6:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

*points at OP*

Author:  Blokk888 [ Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

Splitwirez wrote:
*points at OP*



yes

Author:  oeci [ Mon Dec 11, 2017 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

Out of curiosity: Is this a completely new program or is it based on Classic Shell code?

Author:  Splitwirez [ Mon Dec 11, 2017 10:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

oeci wrote:
Out of curiosity: Is this a completely new program or is it based on Classic Shell code?

It's new, although I'd hardly be surprised if we ended up learning a fair bit from Classic Shell's source code.

Author:  oeci [ Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:53 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

Cool, looking forward to it :-)

Author:  Splitwirez [ Fri Dec 22, 2017 10:14 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo


This Taskbar was built using Start9, and has no ties to Explorer. it's a WIP, obviously, but nonetheless, it's progress.

Author:  Blokk888 [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 3:21 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

is Start9 tested on Windows 7 ?

Author:  Blokk888 [ Wed Dec 27, 2017 10:34 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

Start9 had a website too! :P :P

Author:  redblade8 [ Tue Jan 02, 2018 5:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

A taskbar without explorer? That's excellent work. ^_^

Author:  marduva [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:32 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: Skinnable Win10-esque menu w/ Tiles (Works with

Splitwirez wrote:
...no-one? Okay...would more people be inclined to speak up if I said I'm asking because I'm on the hunt for more Start9 Insiders? (Yes Start9 has its own Insider Program, lel)

To be clear, I'm not taking just everyone who offers, only a few)



Can I be one Insider?

Author:  Splitwirez [ Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:41 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

redblade8 wrote:
A taskbar without explorer? That's excellent work. ^_^

:OD

marduva wrote:
Can I be one Insider?

That post is old, the server's pubic. The invite link is on our website, which can be found in the OP.

Author:  redblade8 [ Sat Jan 20, 2018 10:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Start9: A modular, extensible Shell supplement for Windo

That's so cool that you finally released start 9. I like the website, I'll be joining the discord with my phone. Cheers. =)

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