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Global announcement Topic: Classic Shell no longer in development. Source code released |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2017 11:12 pm
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| Ivo, your product has singlehandedly buoyed up Windows. It is quite possibly the most truly useful add-on for Windows, well, probably ever. But I wonder... If you hadn't done it, and literally millions of people like me and the others around here hadn't found Classic Shell to be a way for everyone t... |
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Window Aero Glass? |
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Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2016 9:27 am
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Replies: 4
Views: 23142
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Less Glass Opacity? |
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Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2016 5:02 pm
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Replies: 3
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Sorry for the long delay...
Thanks.
Are the resources for the skin compiled in or are they modifiable?
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Less Glass Opacity? |
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Posted: Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:28 pm
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Replies: 3
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| Hi guys, I don't seem to be able to reduce the menu glass opacity below a certain (quite opaque) level, nor make the menu color quite as deep blue as the Taskbar... http://Noel.ProDigitalSoftware.com/ForumPosts/Win10/14393/MenuGlassOpacity.png Should I be able to make the menu a more glassy than thi... |
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Win 10 Idea - Persistently Hide Quick access |
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Posted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 9:37 am
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Replies: 10
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| For what it's worth I've been using the "blank everything but the star" mod for quite a while, and I'm STILL not used to it. That wasted space at the top is simply an eyesore. That the Quick Access field can't be eliminated entirely is just another of Microsoft's utter failures! http://Noe... |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Should I Update to 4.3.0 on my critical Win 8.1 workstation? |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 7:58 pm
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Replies: 3
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Just to follow up...
I've had 4.3.0 on Windows 8.1 workstation under heavy use now for 2 weeks - zero glitches.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Should I Update to 4.3.0 on my critical Win 8.1 workstation? |
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Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2016 1:07 pm
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| I generally like to keep up to date, but I also am a bit conservative. I presume the latest release been tested well on Win 8.1 - I know Gaurav runs Win 8.1 on his good computer. Right now Classic Shell 4.2.5 is running perfectly for me. I mean really perfectly - my system runs essentially for as lo... |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Query About Network Access |
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Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2016 6:15 am
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Replies: 3
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| Per my observations usually it's a windows service running under svchost, System, or the Local Security Authority Service that do certificate revocation checks online. Only VERY rarely does Explorer try to communicate at all. That's what caught my eye. And I have SmartScreen completely disabled. Tha... |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Query About Network Access |
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Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:24 am
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| Recently I observed Classic Shell doing an update check via an http: (port 80) request of http://www.classicshell.net. This was when I logged-in. This is fine, expected, and I've allowed it, but I would like to ask: I saw several other communications attempts by Explorer.exe happen in the same secon... |
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Forum: Classic Explorer Topic: A way to make drag/drop a Copy always by default? |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 7:35 pm
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Replies: 2
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Thank you Gaurav! Again you prove that you are a scholar and a gentleman!
One can be really into tweaking and still learn something new about Windows every day!
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Explorer Topic: A way to make drag/drop a Copy always by default? |
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Posted: Wed Feb 17, 2016 3:01 pm
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Replies: 2
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| If you're on the same drive, in File Explorer a drag operation is a Move, while if you're dragging from one drive and onto another it becomes a Copy operation by default. This is nothing new, and I didn't just discover it. However, for the umpteenth time I managed to move a file instead of copying i... |
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Win 10 Idea - Persistently Hide Quick access |
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2016 7:37 pm
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Replies: 10
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I don't know, there's something disturbing about an empty field with just a star. I'm not sure I like that workaround. But thanks for posting it.
-Noel |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:30 pm
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| FINALLY! FOUND IT! ProcMon finally showed it clearly. It wasn't Pictures, it was Favorites . A long time ago I experimented by making the Favorites folder under my username on my VM into a reparse point using MKLINK /D, so that it would point to my host system's Favorites folder. I'd forgotten to un... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 6:24 pm
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| Saw one delay just now. I did not set up any special monitoring and just clicked the Start button on an otherwise quiet system to shut it down. This time I caught Classic Shell failing to access 184.167.173.1 port 80 (Explorer tried to access http://www.ClassicShell.net, presumably to check for upda... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Sun Sep 06, 2015 1:02 pm
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| Hm, I have been trying all day to capture the problem in ProcMon and it's not been cooperating. After your second confirmation that the problem might somehow be related to my Pictures folder, I went looking there (I don't normally use that, AT ALL). There were 3 subfolders, and within one of them wa... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Sat Sep 05, 2015 8:15 pm
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Replies: 16
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| No, this system is too fast for there to be a 3 second delay in doing anything. The VM has 16 virtual processors and runs from an SSD array. Plus the problem occurs after leaving it alone for a while. Nothing is causing the cache to flush. Here's another sequence of dumps. I believe either the 2nd o... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 9:50 pm
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Replies: 16
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| I coded up a little app (with help from the good folks at StackOverflow) to dump out the status of the drive. It shows the one and only virtual drive - C: - is powered-up the whole time. So it's not some kind of virtual power-down state. // DrivePowerStateCheck.cpp : Defines the entry point for the ... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2015 8:22 am
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| The Pictures folder itself is intact, though I have hidden it from display under "This PC" in the Navigation pane by tweaking the registry (I can look up the specifics if you'd like; I don't remember them off the top of my head - I think it was a matter of setting an IsPinnedToNamespaceTre... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:16 pm
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| OK, that strategy worked. I thought to start the dump sequencing process before clicking the Start button, and sure enough caught a delay. I believe I clicked the Start button around the time of dump 1 being created and the menu opened around the time of dump 3. Here's the lot of them: http://Noel.P... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:36 pm
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| Sorry I haven't had time to do a series of dumps so far. I had 5 minutes but failed to Here's a copy of my Win 10 settings: http://Noel.ProDigitalSoftware.com/temp/Menu_Settings.zip This really is feeling like some kind of "virtual drive spin-down", since it's NEVER reproducible a second t... |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:41 pm
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Replies: 16
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I've used a lot of debugging aids, but procdmp is new to me. Do you have a link?
EDIT: Never mind - I see: viewtopic.php?f=12&t=6
-Noel |
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Forum: Bug Reports Topic: Seeing 2 Sec Delay after clicking Start Before Menu Shows |
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Posted: Mon Aug 31, 2015 2:34 pm
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| Win 10 build 10240, updated. This seems to have grown in probability since I first reported it against the beta. It happens a lot now. I can pretty much count on a few second delay if I haven't clicked on the Start button recently. It will always pop open instantly on another second click done short... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: [4.2.4] full-size offset for sub-folders disables in win10 |
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Posted: Thu Aug 13, 2015 8:02 pm
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Replies: 8
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| For what it's worth, with a 3 monitor setup (all 100 ppi, all set to 100% display scaling) I can't reproduce the problem. The two monitors on the sides are turned up sideways (i.e., so they're taller than they are wide). Entire desktop is 4960 x 1600 pixels, display card is ATI Radeon HD 7850. -Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2015 8:33 am
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Replies: 23
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Run works okay in 4.2.4 without the CompatibilityFixes setting.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Intermittent delay in showing the Start Menu |
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 5:01 pm
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| OK, I'll try those things. It's a bit slow to test since it doesn't happen all the time. My normal setup: ClassicShell button is mine, derived from your shell. AV software is Microsoft's Defender. Running processes minimized. When nothing much is running, they number in the mid to high 40s. Search b... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Intermittent delay in showing the Start Menu |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2015 9:11 am
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Replies: 8
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Nope, unchecking the box even though it was disabled at a higher level made no difference.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Intermittent delay in showing the Start Menu |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2015 11:29 pm
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| That was turned off long ago. I should clarify... That particular box was actually checked, but the Show recent or frequent programs setting was set to "Don't show", so the box was grayed out. I've unchecked it now and returned back to the "Don't show" setting, and will report ba... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Intermittent delay in showing the Start Menu |
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Posted: Thu Aug 06, 2015 1:10 pm
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Replies: 8
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| Hi Ivo, I didn't think there was much chance I'd be able to capture the problem, but incredibly I just managed it. I remembered to start Procmon just prior to pressing the Start orb, saw a several second delay, then stopped the event capture. You can download the Procmon event list here: Filtered on... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Intermittent delay in showing the Start Menu |
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Posted: Wed Aug 05, 2015 5:59 pm
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| Has anyone else seen an occasional several second delay in opening the Classic View Start Menu on Win 10 after the Start button is pressed? I have SSDs, so there's no chance of it being a disk spinning up. Nothing should really be taking several seconds to become ready. Can't say I ever experienced ... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Sat Aug 01, 2015 11:54 am
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Replies: 23
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Thanks, Ivo. If I uncover anything else about this particular issue that makes my system special somehow I'll be sure to let you know.
I'll be sure and remove the CompatibilityFixes tweak. Thanks for the tip.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Fri Jul 31, 2015 1:26 pm
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| I'm sorry that wasn't more helpful. But at least whatever you're doing with that setting is working around the problem. That should help you narrow the reasons down. Please let me know what else I can test for you. -Noel Oh, and P.S., the Windows Start Menu won't even open at all in this configurati... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 11:21 am
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Replies: 23
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Win 10 Idea - Persistently Hide Quick access |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:11 am
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Replies: 10
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FYI, I have still found no method for removing Quick Access persistently without causing the unwanted side effect of breaking Drag And Drop in the Navigation pane.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
| NoelC |
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Posted: Thu Jul 30, 2015 5:02 am
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Replies: 23
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Sorry for the delay in responding.
Did what you suggested, and... Success!
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 9:23 pm
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| Sorry to say, nope - Run does not presently seem to do anything at all. I select it but the menu just disappears and no Run box pops up. I've even got the latest Windows Updates as of just a little while ago. The only thing particularly special about my system is that I'm running it with UAC disable... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2015 5:26 pm
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Replies: 23
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And it again facilitates translucency when used with Aero Glass. Thanks for that.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Thu Jul 16, 2015 9:20 pm
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10240 has no blur in the Taskbar, by the way.
-Noel |
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Win 10 Idea - Persistently Hide Quick access |
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Posted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 5:02 am
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Replies: 10
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| You're right, I was changing the HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT value. It hadn't occurred to me to create a new key under the user-specific area. Thanks for the idea. However, when I do that for me it re-invokes the problem with drag and drop. It's possible something else I have done has caused this, or that som... |
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Forum: Feature Requests Topic: Win 10 Idea - Persistently Hide Quick access |
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Posted: Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:37 am
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| Build 10162... http://Noel.ProDigitalSoftware.com/ForumPosts/Win10/10162/WQuickAccess.png I have tried everything to eliminate the visibility of Quick access from the File Explorer Navigation pane. I don't need it and I don't want it. The only method that works comes with a bad side effect: Changing... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Can't run application with a parameter from the search box |
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Posted: Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:33 pm
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Replies: 8
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| Since 10162 went in as an upgrade, most of the customizations were already there. Unfortunately it didn't start working. I plan to do a clean install of the GA version when it comes out. I'll track whether Run works on a virgin system and assuming it does, then what I tweak that causes it to fail. I... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Can't run application with a parameter from the search box |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 9:42 pm
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| Well, I *had* 10159 (x64), but Microsoft has seen fit to send out another one. Seems like all my time any more doing is in reworking the config settings I like after new builds reset most of it. I'll let you know if 10162 (or whatever this new one is going in now) allows the run prompt to come up. A... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Can't run application with a parameter from the search box |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:49 am
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| OK, on the first item, I now realize the "See more results" entry comes from the [ ] Search files box being checked. It's also checked on my Win 8.1 system, but I keep the search indexer disabled, so it was non-functional (and showing a red mark). However, the Run box is still non-function... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Can't run application with a parameter from the search box |
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Posted: Thu Jul 02, 2015 4:41 am
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| Up to build 10074 (I think - I could be off a few builds), I could run an application with a parameter from the Search box or Run option in Classic Shell. Now the addition of a parameter causes an Explorer window to open with a failed search. As an example, I have a small application that pops up a ... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 8:33 pm
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Replies: 23
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| Yes, the problem remains without Aero Glass in the system at all. I meant to say that in my last post, since you had asked, but just forgot. I don't expect you to do or fix anything; I'm just here to try to help. Maybe it's just a bug in Microsoft's code and not worth any worry at all - though I am ... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2015 10:15 am
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Replies: 23
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| One of you claims the OS provides it and the other shows how you can tweak a secret registry location to achieve it. EVEN IF everyone could do that, isn't the whole point of Classic Shell to bring back functionality without having to fool with the registry? That some folks don't see the blur behind ... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:35 pm
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| I don't mean to be picky, but transparency is not the same as translucency, which involves blur. The ability to select transparency is there, but not blur. As I mentioned, not everyone's getting builds that have blur. I believe they're looking to find out which userbase submits happier responses (an... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: "Disable taskbar transparency" missing in 4.2.2 for Win 10 |
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Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2015 1:22 am
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| With Big Muscle's Aero Glass package and a Windows 10 installation that does not itself blur the Taskbar, I find it's impossible to get Taskbar blur with Classic Shell version 4.2.2. Not a big deal, but perhaps unintended. As far as I know, there's no promise yet that Microsoft is actually going to ... |
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Forum: Classic Shell 4.0 beta Topic: Companies that use Classic Shell. |
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Posted: Thu May 21, 2015 10:24 pm
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Replies: 1
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We use it and love it here at ProDigital Software - a small software business. Back when the sources were available I fully vetted the program.
This is a product that's better implemented than Microsoft's own code.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Classic Shell on Windows 10 |
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Posted: Tue May 05, 2015 3:42 am
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Replies: 217
Views: 2514656
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When you speak of corruption, could that be related to the visual noise that seems to be there in Windows Vista mode when the buttons are fading-in/out? I disabled the fade-out and things look better.
-Noel |
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Forum: Classic Start Menu Topic: Classic Shell on Windows 10 |
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Posted: Sat May 02, 2015 3:22 am
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Replies: 217
Views: 2514656
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FYI, 10074 has the same problem.
-Noel |
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